Friday, August 29, 2025

Talking about Talks on MK3.3-9

1. preface

Trying to get a handle on MK3.3-9 takes some effort.

In the end, I found Nikhilananda's new translation to be the easiest to follow.

Joseph Campbell edited the work and his sharp Mother English helps significantly.

2. in the beginning

Gaudapada spells out our simile first. Atman is like infinite space.

Death and infinite regression are to be seen through next.

K3.6 is the turn. No one is denying the Maya of names and forms.

3. in conclusion

Gaudapada isn't buying any chance of change in the changeless.

K3.7 leans into the turn. Atman is indivisible and beyond all cause and effect.

As the song is infinite space, the tenor is Atman, our song ends.




Talks on Mandukya K3.3-9: akasa

or Transcreating Nikhilananda

Say Atman is infinite space and Atman is manifesting in people like infinite space in clay pots. This is what birth is like.

Upon destruction of any clay pot, the infinite space contained in the pot merges with infinite space. So do people merge with Atman.

As the smoke-filled space in one clay pot doesn’t smudge the other spaces enclosed in other pots, so the emotions of one individual does not actually darken others.

Although a variety of names and forms of different spaces may be admitted, this does not imply there's any differentiation in space itself.

As the infinite space enclosed in a clay pot is neither an effect nor a part of infinite space, so an individual is neither a creation nor a part of Atman.

Only a child would think the actual dimension of space is being polluted by polluted air. Only the ignorant believe Atman can be similarly polluted.

Atman, in regard to its birth and death, its comings and goings, its dwelling in different bodies, is not unlike infinite space.






Thursday, August 28, 2025

Some Commentary and Translations on and of MK3.1-2

K3.1

Upāsanā-āśrito dharmo jāte brahmaṇi vartate, prāg-utpatter-ajaṁ sarvaṁ tenāsau kṛpaṇaḥ smṛtaḥ.


The chief difficulty in this verse is the word dharma. Sankara… interprets the word dharma as the “seeker” meaning the individual soul (jiva). But why should the word have this unprecedented meaning? // …The explanation of dharma as soul… is somewhat forced, and it would be better to understand the word dharma in karika 3.1 along the lines of “teaching” or “doctrine”. ~Comans

Here, in this stanza, the word ‘upāsanā’ is used, though the word ‘bhakti’ is the term that is nowadays understood. Upāsanā is the term used in the Vedas. In the entire literature of Vedas there is no term as bhakti ever used. Bhakti is the term and a technique discovered by Vyāsa and elaborated in the mythological literature (purāṇas) of India. ~Chinmayananda


A doctrine (dharma) based upon a conceptual meditation occurs when Brahman is born. [That doctrine is]: “prior to origination, everything is unborn.” Therefore, that doctrine is considered as pitiable. (tr-Comans)

The individual ego taking to itself the path of devotion (upāsanā) imagines itself to be related to the Brahman, who is supposed by it as having manifested Himself. Such an ego is said to be of narrow intellect because it thinks that before creation, all was of the nature of the unborn Reality. (tr-Chinmayananda)

The aspirant, betaking himself to the devotional exercises, subsists in the conditioned Brahman. All this was but the birthless Brahman before creation. Hence such a man is considered pitiable (or narrow in his outlook). (tr-Gambhirananda)


K3.2

ato vakṣyāmy-akārpaṇyam-ajāti samatāṁ gatam, yathā na jāyate kiñcit jāyamānaṁ samantataḥ. (2)


Because of the reasons given in the previous mantra Gauḍapāda is now promising to explain to the sādhaka the supreme Reality which is beyond all limitations. // By the expression sama (same throughout), the Master means that the Reality is homogeneous and all-pervading. The implications are that there is nothing similar to It in It, nor dissimilar to It; nor is there any distinction in density or quality within Itself. // If the Reality be thus eternal and all-pervading how is it that, mortals as we are, we are recognising a world of plurality about and around us? The answer is that these are, in fact, nothing but the Reality Itself. The names and forms of the pluralistic world are but an illusory dream of the mind. ~Chinmayananda

Atah: “therefore”. This ‘therefore’ is quite significant and refers to the situation of the Upasaka of the above verse who finds himself in a pitiable, unworthy plight. He is unhappy of his condition of having taken birth and living in a state of conditioned consciousness rather than in Pure Consciousness. He takes recourse to worship of the Supreme Being in the hope that after his death he will merge into the state of Pure Consciousness again. To have such an idea in mind is itself a delusion, says Gaudapadaji. The Upasaka has reduced himself to a helpless entity for his whole life, imagining that only death will release him from his bound condition. With this background, expressed by the term ‘therefore’, Sri Gaudapadaji begins to elaborate on the correct interpretation of Brahman who is ‘without limitations’. ~Sandeepany / Gurubhaktananda


Therefore, I shall now describe to you (that Brahman) which is free from limitations, unborn, and homogeneous; and from which nothing is in reality born, though it appears to have manifested in endless forms everywhere. (tr-Chinmayananda)

Hence I shall speak of that (Brahman) which is free from limitation, has no birth, and is in a state of homogeneity; and listen how nothing whatsoever is born in any way, though it seems to be born. (tr-Gambhirananda)

Therefore T shall now describe that (Brahman) which is free from limitations, unborn and which is the same throughout; and from this, one understands that it is not (in reality) born though it appears to be manifested everywhere. (tr-Nikhilananda)







Wednesday, August 27, 2025

TOC Karika 3 Advaita Prakarana (from Chinmaya Sandeepany)

Advaita Prakarana

Section 3.1: NEED FOR AN OPEN INTELLECT

Verse 3.1: Keeping the Intellect Open

Verse 3.2: The Subject of This Chapter Stated

Section 3.2: THE METAPHOR OF POT-SPACE

Verse 3.3: The Pot Originates – BIRTH

Verse 3.4: The Pot Breaks – DEATH

Verse 3.5: Jeevas are Many, Atman is One

Verse 3.6: Upadhis are Many, Atman is One

Verse 3.7: Modifications or Parts are Many, Atman is One

Verse 3.8: The Taint of Impurity

Verse 3.9: The Value of the “Space” Simile

Verse 3.10: Conclusion: Objects are Projections of Maya

Section 3.3: SCRIPTURAL AUTHORITY

Verse 3.11: The Taittireeya Upanishad (II-Anuvaka 1 to 6)

Verse 3.12: Brihadaranyaka Upanishad (II – v. 1-14)

Verse 3.13: Non-duality Praised; Duality Condemned

Section 3.4: ORIGIN OF DUALISTIC SCHOOLS

Verse 3.14: General: Primary and Secondary Senses

Verse 3.15: Duality Used As Illustrations

Verse 3.16: Catering for Three Stages of Understanding

Verse 3.17: Dualists Quarrel Amongst Themselves

Verse 3.18: Duality – An Effect of Non-Duality

Section 3.5: IMMORTALITY VERSES MORTALITY

Verse 3.19 Maya Alone Creates Multiplicity

Verse 3.20: The Unborn Cannot Be Born

Verse 3.21: Intrinsic Nature Never Changes

Verse 3.22: The Immortal Cannot Be Modified

Section 3.6: IS CREATION A REALITY?

Verse 3.23: Both Scriptures and Reason Must Prevail

Verse 3.24: What Do the Shrutis Say on the Topic?

Verse 3.25: Gross, Subtle & Causal Levels Negated

Verse 3.26: Earlier “Temporary” Theories Negated

Verse 3.27: Birth Possible Only Through Maya

Verse 3.28: The Unreal Can Never Be Born

Section 3.7: “DRISHTI-SRISHTI VADA”

Verse 3.29: Apparent Duality in Dream & Waking

Verse 3.30: The Mind in Dream & Waking

Verse 3.31: Mind IS the Duality

Verse 3.32: The Cessation of All Mental Activity

Verse 3.33: Cessation of Mind & “Birthlessness”

Verse 3.34 & 35a: The Controlled Mind vs. Deep Sleep

Verse 3.35b & 36: The Controlled Mind & Knowledge

Verse 3.37 & 38: The Controlled Mind & Self-Experience

Verse 3.39a: “Asparsha Yoga” – the ‘Contactless Yoga’

Section 3.8: “SRISHTI-DRISHTI VADA”

Verse 3.39b & 40: The Yogis or “Srishti-Drishti Vada” Students

Verse 3.41: The Difficulty of Mind Control

Verse 3.42: The Proper Means of Mind Control

Verse 3.43: Method 1: “Remember Sorrow, Remember God”

Verse 3.44: Method 2: Working on the Gunas

Verse 3.45: Method 3: Discrimination Keeps Away Attachment

Verse 3.46: A Final Checklist for Mind Control

Verse 3.47: Features of Nirvikalpa Samadhi

Verse 3.48: The State of Non-Dual Reality


Tuesday, August 26, 2025

Talks on MK2.35-38: tattvam

Gaudpada keeps it real. His advaita is neither neo nor conventional. Free from attachment, well-versed in vedantic revelations, and able to discern reality from illusion, his seer is free from phenomenal duality—nondual.

Having realized the nondual self and having trained the mind to self-remember that, the knower of the truth acts as one who does not know when in the world.

Having given up god, society, and sacraments, this unconventional seer makes one’s home in the nondual self, using the body-mind for public transportation as needed and accepting whatever food and clothing happens by.

Seeing the inner truth and the outer truth, being one with the real truth and reveling forever in that, this seer is never not the truth, Gaudapada says.






Monday, August 25, 2025

MK2.35-38: Shankara's Commentary on Gaudapada's Method of Sadhana

The textbook which we are now taking up is a prakaraṇa grantha (a textbook of instructions). It is not a śāstra, where theories and ideals are elaborately and exhaustively explained; but in a prakaraṇa grantha the Masters are compelled by the traditional rules of that particular literary composition to provide the students with the method of sādhanā... 

True to the literary demands of a prakaraṇa textbook, Gauḍapāda is providing us with detailed instructions on the spiritual sādhanā for students of Vedānta... In the chapter, that is now under discussion, we have a series of four stanzas which give a definite explanation of the technique by which the individuals can rise above the illusory world and come to cognise the non-dual Reality behind it. ~Chinmayananda


vīta-rāga-bhaya-krodhair-munibhir-veda-pāragaiḥ, nirvikalpo hyayaṁ dṛṣṭaḥ prapañcopaśamo‘dvayaḥ. (35)

वीत-राग-भय-क्रोधैः – free from attachment, fear and anger; मुनिभिः – by sages; वेद-पारगैः – well established in the Vedas; निर्विकल्पः – devoid of all imaginations; हि – (is) indeed; अयम् – this (Self); दृष्टः – seer; प्रपञ्च-उपशमः – free from the manifold world; अद्वयः – non-dual (tr-Chinmayananda)

The perfect knowledge as described above, is thus extolled. The sages who are always free from all blemishes such as attachment, fear, spite, anger, etc., who are given to contemplation, who can discriminate between the real and the unreal and who can grasp the essence of the meaning of the Vedas, i.e., who are well versed in the Vedanta (i.e., the Upanishads) do realise the real nature of this Atman which is free from all imaginations and also free from this the illusion of the manifold. This Atman is the total negation of the phenomena of duality and therefore it is non-dual. The intention of the Sruti passage is this: The Supreme Self can be realised only by the Sannyasins (men of renunciation) who are free from all blemishes and who are enlightened regarding the essence of the Upanishads and never by others, i.e., those vain logicians whose mind is clouded by passion, etc., and who find truth only in their own creeds and opinions. ~Shankara (tr-Nikhilanda)


Tasmād-evaṁ viditvainam-advaite yojayet-smṛtim, advaitaṁ samanuprāpya jaḍavallokam-ācaret. (36)

तस्मात् – therefore; एवम् विदित्वा – having thus realised; एनम् – this (Ᾱtman); अद्वैते – on the non-dual (Self); योजयेत्-स्मृतिम् – identify your mind with it; अद्वैतम् – non-dual (Self); समनुप्राप्य – having attained well; जडवत् – like an inert, insentient thing; लोकम् – in the world; आचरेत् – should move about (live) (tr-Chinmayananda)

As non-duality, on account of its being the negation of all evils, is bliss and fearlessness, therefore knowing it to be such, direct your mind to the realisation of the non-dual Atman. In other words, concentrate your memory on the realisation of non-duality alone. Having known this non-dual Brahman which is free from hunger, etc., unborn and directly perceptible as the Self and which transcends all codes of human conduct, i.e., by attaining to the consciousness that ‘I am the Supreme Brahman,’ behave with others as one not knowing the Truth; that is to say, let not others know what you are and what you have become. ~Shankara (tr-Nikhilananda)


Nistutir-nir-namaskāro niḥ-svadhākāra eva ca, calācala-niketaś-ca yatir-yādṛcchiko bhavet. (37)

निःस्तुतिः – having given up all prayers; निर्नमस्कारः – having given up all rituals; निःस्वधाकारः एव च – and also having given up all the rites for manes and so on; चल-अचल – and having the body and the Self; निकेतः – support or (as his) abode; च – and; यतिः – the man of self-restraint in other words, renunciate; यादृच्छिकः – whatever comes by chance or dependent on circumstances; भवेत् – should live on (tr-Chinmayananda)

What should be his code of conduct in the world? It is thus stated:—He should give up all such formalities as praise, salutation, etc., and be free from all desires for external objects. In other words, he should take up the life of a Paramahamsa Sannyasin… Such a wise man never takes shelter under external objects. He entirely depends upon circumstances, that is to say, he maintains his body with whatever food or strips of cloth, etc., are brought to him by mere chance. ~Shankara (tr-Nikhilananda)


Tattvam-ādhyātmikaṁ dṛṣṭvā tattvaṁ dṛṣṭvā tu bāhyataḥ, tattvībhūtas-tadā-rāmaḥ tattvād-apracyuto bhavet. (38)

तत्त्वम् – the Truth; आध्यात्मिकम् – internally; दृष्ट्वा – having seen; तत्त्वम् – the Truth; दृष्ट्वा – having seen; तु – indeed; बाह्यतः – outside; तत्त्वीभूतः – becoming one with the Reality; तदा-रामः – and derives pleasure from it (revelling in that Reality); तत्त्वात् – from the Reality; अप्रच्युतः भवेत् – does never deviate (tr-Chinmayananda)

He becomes one with Truth and derives his enjoyment from Truth and not from any external object. But a person ignorant of Truth, takes the mind to be the Self and believes the Atman to be active like the mind, and becomes active. He thus thinks his self to be identified with the body, etc., and deviated from Atman saying, “ Oh, I am now fallen from the Knowledge of Self.” When his mind is concentrated he sometimes thinks that he is happy and one with the Self. He declares “ Oh, I am now one with the essence of Truth.” But, the knower of Self never makes any such statement, as Atman is ever one and changeless and as it is impossible for Atman to deviate from its own nature. The consciousness that “I am Brahman” never leaves him. In other words, he never loses the consciousness regarding the essence of the Self. ~Shankara (tr-Nikhilananda)


The non-dual Ātmā which is division-less and which is free from the world is indeed seen by the sages who are free from attachment, fear, and anger and who are well versed in the Vedas. (35)

Therefore, having thus known this (Ātmā,) one should fix the mind on the non-dual (Ātmā.) Having attained the non-dual Ātmā, one should behave in the world like an ignorant one. (36)

A saṃnyāsi is without praise, without salutation, without rituals, and with the body and the Ātmā as the abode. He is spontaneous. (37)

Seeing the Reality within the body and seeing the Reality outside, he becomes one with the Reality. Reveling in that (Reality,) he does not deviate from the Reality. (38)

(tr-Paramarthananda)





Sunday, August 24, 2025

259823st19

I'm singing a song.

I am singing the song of I am.

I am; I know I am; I love I know I am.

Awareness and consciousness and memory.

Saturday, August 23, 2025

Real Myth

Nonduality is the name of god. Saguna brahman minus maya equals nirguna brahman. 

I minus avidya equals that minus maya. Welcome to the now math. Real Math 101.

God is the absence of duality. The presence of nonduality transcends all gods.

People are unaware. God is aware. Awareness is that in which the mithya appears.




Passage to Advaita

If Shankara is like Saint Paul, Gaudapada is Jesus of Nazareth.

The Epistles are like Bhashyas. The Karikas are like red-letter Gospels. The Mandukya Upanishad is the prophet of old.

The waking state is the third state of sleeping and the second state of dreaming. The fourth is not a state but Turiya (ayam atma brahma) in which sleeping and dreaming appear. Om.





Talks on Mandukya K2.32: na vai mukta

In K2.32, Gaudapada, radical nondualist par excellence, throws a bomb upon the Vedantic structure of teaching. He says there is no bondage, no striving student, no one desiring liberation, and no one ever liberated. That's the highest truth.

It's the highest truth from that perspective of reality. From the perspective of this transactional world, it’s another side of the enlightenment coin. But there are those poor fools who find themselves lost in friendly fire. They call their condition neo-advaita.

Look, it's like the old example of using a thorn to remove a thorn. Like Gaudapada is saying hold this thorn lightly and use it with the same dispassion and discernment as anything in this dream world. Upon removal of such a problematic thorn, be prepared to throw this thorn away.





Mandukya K2.33: Non-duality is auspicious (Advayata siva)

bhāvair-asadbhir-evāyam-advayena ca kalpitaḥ, bhāvā apyadvayenaiva tasmād-advayatā śivā. (33)

भावैः – objects; असद्भिः – unreal; एव – verily; अयम् – this (Self); च अद्वयेन – and for non-dual; कल्पितः – perceived; भावाःअपि – objects also; अद्वयेन-एव – the non-dual (Self) only; तस्मात् – therefore; अद्वयता – non-duality; शिवा – is auspicious 33.

This Ᾱtman is imagined both as the unreal objects that are perceived and also as the non-dual. The objects are also imagined in the non-duality Itself. Therefore non-duality is the (highest) auspiciousness. (tr-Chinmayananda)

This ( Ātmā) is imagined as the unreal objects and as the non-dual (substratum.) But, the (unreal) objects (exist) because of the non-dual (substratum) only. Therefore, non-duality is auspicious. (tr-Paramarthananda)


Thus since non-duality is the substratum of all illusion, and since this non-duality is ever unchanging in its own nature, advayata, non-duality; is Siva, auspicious, even in the state of illusion. But the illusions alone are evil, for they generate fear like that from the snake seen on a rope for instance. Non-duality is free from fear; hence that alone is auspicious. ~Shankara (tr-Gambhirananda)


Gauḍapāda says that all our imaginations of the unreal world of perceived plurality, as well as our philosophical conclusions that the supreme Reality is non-dual, both of them are mere imaginations. // In fact, to the Supreme Reality no quality can be attributed. To define the Supreme in terms of Its qualities or properties is to pull It down to the level of a substance. To define the Supreme would be to make it non-eternal and finite, perishable and changing. To define the Supreme as non-dual is only an ‘indicative definition’ bringing home to us the idea that It is the Absolute. It is non-dual only with reference to the duality perceived, but when we have realised that, duality itself is false, the term non-dual has no existence. ~Chinmayananda


The idea that the Self is the truth depends on the idea that the world and the jivas are false. When the world and the jivas are negated the word “truth” no longer applies. Only reality, “is-ness,” remains. It is neither true nor false. // The verse implies that the belief that objects exist on their own is inauspicious insofar as depending on them produces attachment. When you realize your innate non-dual wholeness, you are auspiciously freed of attachment to everything. ~Swartz


This is the first time we are encountering the idea of seeing Non-duality as being something to be viewed as ‘auspicious’. Even from the point of view of illusion, the Bhashya says that Non-duality is an auspicious concept. The reason is that it provides us with a changeless substratum against which we can evaluate the changing superimposition. It provides us with a solid foundation to work from. It provides us with a vision by which we can steer our lifeboat safely through this world. ~Sandeepany (Gurubhaktananda)






Thursday, August 21, 2025

Mandukya K2.32: This is the highest Truth (Iti esa paramarthata)

Na nirodho na cotpattir-na baddho na ca sādhakaḥ, na mumukṣur-na vai mukta ityeṣā paramārthatā. (32)

निरोधः – there is neither dissolution; न च-उत्पत्तिः – and nor creation, birth in other words, origination; न बद्धः – none is in bondage; न च साधकः – and none is aspirant for wisdom; न मुमुक्षुः – none hankers after liberation; न वै मुक्तः – none indeed is liberated; इति-एषा – this is; परमार्थता – the supreme Truth

32. There is neither dissolution, nor birth; neither anyone in bondage, nor any aspirant for wisdom; neither can there be anyone who hankers after Liberation, nor any liberated as such. This alone is the supreme Truth.

Tr-Chinmayananda


And then there is na nirodhah, no dissolution - nirodha being the same as nirodhana, utpattih, origination; baddhah, one under bondage, a transmigrating individual soul; sadhakah, one who strives for liberation; mumuksuh, one who hankers after liberation; muktah, one who is free from bondage. In the absence of origination and dissolution, bondage etc. do not exist. Iti esa paramarthata, this is the highest Truth. ~Shankara (tr-Gambhirananda

This verse sums up the meaning of the chapter. When duality is perceived to be illusory and Atman alone is known as the sole Reality, then it is clearly established that all our experiences, ordinary or religious (Vedic), verily pertain to the domain of ignorance. Then one perceives that there is no dissolution, i.e., destruction (from the standpoint of Reality); no birth or creation, i.e., coming into existence; no one in bondage, i.e., no worldly being; no pupilage, i.e., no one adopting means for the attainment of liberation; no seeker after liberation, and no one free from bondage (as bondage does not exist). The Ultimate Truth is that the stage of bondage, etc., cannot exist in the absence of creation and destruction. How can it be said that there is neither creation nor destruction? It is thus replied: There is no duality (at any time). ~Shankara (tr-Nikhilananda)


Gauḍapāda’s work is a call of Truth to man, from Truth, to walk the path of Truth, and to reach the Truth. Throughout the path, the Truth is explained and the Truth is described only in the native language of the land of Truth. Thus, without commentary and vivid explanations given by interpreters, who know both the language of Truth as well as the language of ignorance, none can understand the Kārikā fully. ~Chinmayananda


The creation, sustenance, and dissolution of the waking world only seemingly happen but really they do not happen from the standpoint of Turīya ātmā. From the waker’s standpoint they are real. Jīvas coming into existence, experiencing saṃsāra, jīvas becoming seekers, following the sādhanas karma-yoga, upāsana-yoga and jnana-yoga, coming to a guru, guru teaching, and getting liberated only seemingly happen. There is no question of anyone becoming liberated. From the standpoint of the body-mind complex, all these are really happening but from the standpoint of Turīyam, all these are as though happening. ~Paramarthananda


This statement is probably responsible for more mischief in the modern “advaita” world than any other. In the hands of untaught teachers with no impersonal means of knowledge, it amounts to a license to frustrate unqualified seekers and has spawned a generation of non-existent gurus proclaiming non-existent truths to non-existent seekers. Unless it is seen in the context of a complete teaching of reality – satya and mithya – and a sadhana that converts an undisciplined seeker into a disciplined inquirer, it amounts to nothing more than denial of mithya. The mithya world and the mithya seeker exist, so a teaching has to account for it and provide tools that prepare the mind to understand the meaning of this statement. ~Swartz


Karikas 31 and 32 present Gaudapada’s famous teaching of “nonorigination” (ajativada). These karikas exhibit a very close resemblance to some portions of Mahayana Buddhist literature... Though Gaudapada’s language here is undeniably similar to that of Nagarjuna and to Mahayana Buddhism in general, the similarity ends at this point, for Gaudapada’s perspective is quite different. Gaudapada’s perspective is based upon the teaching contained in the Mandykya Upanisad. If the phenomenal world is an unreal appearance, then there is no real origination or real destruction, there can only be an apparent origination and an apparent destruction. Accordingly, there is no one who is really bound etc. ~Comans


From the standpoint of Reality the stanza is indeed true. To one who has awakened to the supreme Consciousness, there is neither dissolution, nor birth, nor bondage. Having reached the goal there are no more aspirations, no more seeking, no more the satisfaction of having gained the Liberation. Having become the native of the land of Liberation, the individual has already transcended the ordinary planes of delusions. To him, therefore, the pluralistic world of illusions or the endless demands made by the physical, psychological and intellectual entities in himself are no more there. Having cognised the Self, he becomes the Self, and as the Self he is himself the all-pervading, divine Reality. ~Chinmayananda




Tuesday, August 19, 2025

Footnotes to Mandukya K2.16

Which was first—this reflection or the mirror? Neither inner nor outer nor altered in any way be.

Dreams dream. That’s what we do. It’s not about the dream as it is the dreaming. That's our first clue.

We are imagination nation. What I dream is just another dream in you. That I dream is the point. Is it not, you?.







Short Talks on Mandukya K2.16: kalpayate purvam

People are not created but imagined.

Because people were imagined, a person will imagine too.

With individuality comes ego. With ego comes duality.

Nobody knows which came first: reflected consciousness or the material universe.

Maya is beginningless. Pure consciousness is beyond both.




Mandukya K2.16 Medley

Gauḍapāda says that first of all, the imagination of separative individual Self, jīvātma bhāvanā, is rendered upon the Ᾱtman. (Ātmā, with the help of māyā-śakti projects the waking world.~P) This egocentric idea is born with the concept of the separateness, when the mind rose up and the awareness was reflected on the mental pool of its own thought flow. ~C

Even though we cannot talk about the order of the appearance of the experiencer and the experienced, for our understanding we talk about an order. In that order, first the experiencer jīva is created according to the karma of the jīva and thereafter the experienced world is created based on the karma of the jīva only. The world does not have puṇya-pāpam because it is inert. ~P

How can projection be a series? It isn’t a series, but breaking it down into stages makes it easier for a Self-ignorant person to understand the nature of mithya. Liberation is complete knowledge of satya and mithya. If you don’t understand the relationship between your sentient jiva and its thoughts and feelings, which after all are just material objects, how can you free yourself from attachment to them? ~S

From this basic sense of individuality, arises the entire projection of falsity into this world. This is denoted here by “he imagines different objects”, where the key word is not ‘objects’ but ‘different’. Difference denotes Duality, which is a departure from Non-duality, the state of the Pure Self. We can say, the Ego gives birth to Duality, because Duality is really not there in a world where Ego is not present. ~S/G

This delusion creates a multiple hierarchy of delusions, each thickening the veil and taking us farther and farther away from our real nature and in the ultimate analysis of it all, the egocentric deluded entity in us looks out, into a self-made world through the mind and the sense organs, to cognise in its own dream world a panorama of names and forms arranged and paraded to order. ~C

First comes the knowledge of the idea of cause and next the knowledge of the idea of effect. Then follows the memory of both cause and effect. This memory is followed by a corresponding knowledge which results in the various states of knowledge characterized by action, actor, and effect. These are followed by their memory, which, in turn, is followed by other states of knowledge. In this way are imagined various entities, internal and external. ~S(N)


~text from quotes of Chinmayananda, Paramarthananda, Swartz, Sandeepany/Gurubhaktananda, Shankara (tr-Nikhilananda) see MK2.16 [&17,18]: Translations & Commentaries) for each quote's context







Monday, August 18, 2025

MK2.16 (&17,18): Translations & Commentaries

jīvaṁ kalpayate pūrvaṁ tato bhāvān pṛthag-vidhān, // bāhyān-ādhyātmikāṁś-caiva yathā-vidyas-tathā-smṛtiḥ. (16)

जीवम् – the jīva, the individual; कल्पयते – (the Self) projects, imagines; पूर्वम् – first; ततः – thereafter; भावान् – objects; पृथक्-विधान् – various entities; // बाह्यान् – external, objective; आध्यात्मिकान् – subjective, personal; च एव – and also; यथा – as is; विद्यः – the knowledge; तथा – so is; स्मृतिः – the memory

16. First of all the egocentric attitude (jīva bhāvanā) is projected and thereafter follow imaginations of the various entities both objective and subjective. As is the knowledge, so is the memory of it. (tr-Chinmayananda)

Like the fancying of a snake in a rope, He purvam kalpayate, first imagines; jivam, the individual-who is a bundle of causes and effects expressing themselves through such beliefs as, ‘I act; and mine are the (resulting) sorrows and happiness’ - on the pure Self that is devoid of such characteristics.   After that, for his sake, He (the Lord) imagines different objects, such as the vital force and so on, bahyan adhyatmikan ca eva, both external and mental, dividing them into action, instruments, and results.   As to that, what is the reason for that imagination? That is being stated. The individual that is imagined by (the Lord) Himself and is himself capable of imagination, gets a memory, yathavidyah, in accordance with the kind of thought-impressions that he is possessed of; that fact is alluded to by tathasmrtih, he is possessed of that kind of memory.    ~Shankara (tr-Gambhirananda)

First comes the knowledge of the idea of cause and next the knowledge of the idea of effect. Then follows the memory of both cause and effect. This memory is followed by a corresponding knowledge which results in the various states of knowledge characterized by action, actor, and effect. These are followed by their memory, which, in turn, is followed by other states of knowledge. In this way are imagined various entities, internal and external, which are perceived and are related to one another as cause and effect. ~Shankara (tr-Nikhilananda)

Ātmā, with the help of māyā-śakti projects the waking world. The entire created world should include the experiencer jīva and the experienced objects. One is sentient and the other is insentient. Even though we cannot talk about the order of the appearance of the experiencer and the experienced, for our understanding we talk about an order. In that order, first the experiencer jīva is created according to the karma of the jīva and thereafter the experienced world is created based on the karma of the jīva only. The world does not have puṇya-pāpam because it is inert. …The whole drama starts. The only solution is to raise oneself from Viśva, Taijasa and Prājña to Turīyam.   ~Paramarthananda

Gauḍapāda says that first of all, the imagination of separative individual Self, jīvātma bhāvanā, is rendered upon the Ᾱtman. This egocentric idea is born with the concept of the separateness, when the mind rose up and the awareness was reflected on the mental pool of its own thought flow; and the egocentric entity, seemingly real, changes its attitude, character, nature and behaviour according to the reflecting medium, namely, the mental condition. This ego (jīva), which is the reflection of Reality on the mental lake, is the one which is the enjoyer and the doer, who is the sufferer and the liberated, who is the seeker and siddha. // Once this projection of the egocentric concept is posited upon the Ᾱtman, this delusion creates a multiple hierarchy of delusions, each thickening the veil and taking us farther and farther away from our real nature and in the ultimate analysis of it all, the egocentric deluded entity in us looks out, into a self-made world through the mind and the sense organs, to cognise in its own dream world a panorama of names and forms arranged and paraded to order. These are as decided by the previous mental impressions in the individuals! This idea is very subtly indicated when Gauḍapāda says very crisply, ‘as the knowledge, so is the memory of it’. ~Chinmayananda

The “I” sense in itself is not a product of ignorance. In its pure state, this “I” is actually our true Self. However, when it begins to relate to and identify itself with the limited body and mind, it becomes a puny imitation – a caricature of the splendour that is our real Self. // From this basic sense of individuality, arises the entire projection of falsity into this world. This is denoted here by “he imagines different objects”, where the key word is not ‘objects’ but ‘different’. Difference denotes Duality, which is a departure from Non-duality, the state of the Pure Self. We can say, the Ego gives birth to Duality, because Duality is really not there in a world where Ego is not present. Duality lies only in the Ego’s perception of the world! ~Sandeepany (Gurubhaktananda)

How can projection be a series? It isn’t a series, but breaking it down into stages makes it easier for a Self-ignorant person to understand the nature of mithya. Liberation is complete knowledge of satya and mithya. If you don’t understand the relationship between your sentient jiva and its thoughts and feelings, which after all are just material objects, how can you free yourself from attachment to them? ~Swartz


aniścitā yathā rajjur-andhakāre vikalpitā, sarpa-dhārādibhir-bhāvais-tadvad-ātmā vikalpitaḥ. (17)

17. As the rope whose real nature, when not known, is imagined in the dark to be a snake, a water line and so on, so also the Ᾱtman is imagined in various ways.   ~Tr- Chinmayananda

To say the Self is not clearly known implies that it is also vaguely known. If the Self is not known, Vedanta won’t set you free, because Vedanta is a means of knowledge, not a belief system. A means of knowledge removes vagueness about something, in this case your identity.   ~Swartz


Niścitāyāṃ yathā rajjvāṃ vikalpo vinivartate । rajjureveti cādvaitaṃ tadvadātmaviniścayaḥ ॥ 18॥

When the rope is clearly known as “(this is) rope only”, (every) misperception goes away and the nondual (rope remains.) The knowledge of Ātmā (is also) like that. (verse 18).  ~Tr. Paramarthananda





MK2.16 Medley

Gauḍapāda says that first of all, the imagination of separative individual Self, jīvātma bhāvanā, is rendered upon the Ᾱtman. (Ātmā, with the help of māyā-śakti projects the waking world.~P) This egocentric idea is born with the concept of the separateness, when the mind rose up and the awareness was reflected on the mental pool of its own thought flow. ~C

Even though we cannot talk about the order of the appearance of the experiencer and the experienced, for our understanding we talk about an order. In that order, first the experiencer jīva is created according to the karma of the jīva and thereafter the experienced world is created based on the karma of the jīva only. The world does not have puṇya-pāpam because it is inert. ~P

How can projection be a series? It isn’t a series, but breaking it down into stages makes it easier for a Self-ignorant person to understand the nature of mithya. Liberation is complete knowledge of satya and mithya. If you don’t understand the relationship between your sentient jiva and its thoughts and feelings, which after all are just material objects, how can you free yourself from attachment to them? ~S

From this basic sense of individuality, arises the entire projection of falsity into this world. This is denoted here by “he imagines different objects”, where the key word is not ‘objects’ but ‘different’. Difference denotes Duality, which is a departure from Non-duality, the state of the Pure Self. We can say, the Ego gives birth to Duality, because Duality is really not there in a world where Ego is not present. ~S/G

This delusion creates a multiple hierarchy of delusions, each thickening the veil and taking us farther and farther away from our real nature and in the ultimate analysis of it all, the egocentric deluded entity in us looks out, into a self-made world through the mind and the sense organs, to cognise in its own dream world a panorama of names and forms arranged and paraded to order. ~C

First comes the knowledge of the idea of cause and next the knowledge of the idea of effect. Then follows the memory of both cause and effect. This memory is followed by a corresponding knowledge which results in the various states of knowledge characterized by action, actor, and effect. These are followed by their memory, which, in turn, is followed by other states of knowledge. In this way are imagined various entities, internal and external. ~S(N)



TOC Karika 2 Vaitathya Prakarana (from Chinmaya Sandeepany)

Vaitathya Prakarana

Section 2.1: THE UNREALITY OF DREAMS

Verse 2.1: Dreams are an Unreality – Reasons 1 & 2

Verse 2.2: Dreams are an Unreality – Reasons 3 & 4

Verse 2.3: Dreams are an Unreality – Reason “5”

Section 2.2: WAKING & DREAM COMPARED

Verse 2.4: Objects are Perceived in Both States

Verse 2.5: Two Similarities of Waking and Dream States

Verse 2.6: The Unreality of the Waking State

Verse 2.7: Utility is No Proof of Reality

Verse 2.8: Predictability is No Proof of Reality

Verse 2.9: The “Inner & Outer Consciousness” Within Dream

Verse 2.10: The “Inner & Outer Consciousness” Within Waking

Verse 2.11: Who is Their Cognizer and Support?

Section 2.3: THE ROLE OF IMAGINATION

Verse 2.12: The Imaginer – One’s Own Self!

Verse 2.13: How Does Self “Imagine Itself”?

Verse 2.14: “The Time Frames are Different”

Verse 2.15: “The Appearance is Totally Different”

Verse 2.16: The Primary Error – Egocentricity

Verse 2.17: An Analogy for Egocentric Projections

Verse 2.18: Knowledge Removes the Error

Verse 2.19 Ignorance Multiplies the Error

Section 2.4: KNOWLEDGE & BELIEF SYSTEMS

Verse 2.20: Systems 1-4

Verse 2.21: Systems 5-8

Verse 2.22: Systems 9-12

Verse 2.23: Systems 13-16

Verse 2.24: Systems 17-20

Verse 2.25: Systems 21-24

Verse 2.26: Systems 25-28

Verse 2.27: Systems 29-32

Verse 2.28: Systems 33-35

Verse 2.29: How “Belief Systems” take Root

Verse 2.30: Knowledge Unites, Imagination Divides

Verse 2.31: Multiplicity is Unreal

Section 2.5: NON-DUALITY – THE ULTIMATE BELIEF

Verse 2.32: The Benchmark of Non-duality

Verse 2.33: The “Benchmark”of Duality

Verse 2.34: The Non-dual Vision of the World

Verse 2.35: The Realisation of Non-Duality

Verse 2.36: Being Devoted to Non-Duality

Verse 2.37: The Saint & Society

Verse 2.38: The Non-dual Ideal in Practice



Saturday, August 16, 2025

Arriving at Mahavakya

Negative capability is real power. Like effortless nondoing.

Let self-remembering be the front line of your mind control.

The Big Bang is an appearance in Supreme Silence.

Mithya appears in satcitananda. Ayam atma brahma.





Note to Self

Dreams are manufactured in the mind by the power of sleep. Me and god appear in consciousness by the power of maya.

When the mind forgets, memory remembers. Consciousness is timeless. Maya is only beginningless.

Duality isn’t. Nonduality is. There is no me but everything is myself.





Talks on Mandukya K2.12: atmanatmanam-atma

As the dream state is projected from the mind by its own power of sleep, the waking state is projected from consciousness, in consciousness, and by consciousness through the power of its maya.

The dream begins as the mind forgets itself. The universe begins as the nondual Self has no need to know a thing (there is no other). In order to know itself, maya happens. God, beings, and the universe, oh my!

The projection of the Self is not duality. A movie doesn’t trouble the movie screen. In this way, the Self is just a witness. And the self-realized one knows all is in and of the Self. This is Vedanta, Gaudapada says.





Friday, August 15, 2025

Mandukya K2:12 Medley

Generally the theory of Māṇḍūkya-upaniṣad or the thesis developed in the Kārikā is that the seemingly created world is a mere delusion, unreal and illusory in all the three periods of time.

Gauḍapāda has condescended to descend to our level of perception and recognising therein a pluralistic world, has explained to us how it must have risen up from our own delusions.

The answer is whoever is projecting the dream world is the same one that projects the waking world also. The dreamer does not need anything else external to himself other than nidrā-śakti for projecting the dream world.

The dreamer starts his career the moment he forgets himself. This capacity to forget himself and to project outward into a world of experienced objects is not a faculty that has reached him from anywhere else but it is an inherent capacity.

Therefore, ātmā alone projects out of itself the waking world with the help of ātmā itself. Other than māyā-śakti, ātmā does not need anything else for this projection. Where does māyā come from? Gauḍapāda says that it is already there in ātmā similar to the nidrā-śakti.

It is like the imagining of a snake in a rope. It is the Self that imagines both the snake and its perceiver. This Self is the substratum of both knowledge and memory. Therefore the conclusion of Vedanta is quite unlike the view of certain nihilists.

Vedanta is not solipsism. The individual ego does not create the universe. Both come into existence together. The jiva, Isvara, and the world, all conjured up by maya, last as long as maya lasts.

The projection does not amount to duality, because it has no effect on the Self, just as a movie has no impact on the screen. So we say that the Self is an experienceless experiencer, or a non-experiencing witness. 

When the Self-realized Self experiences objects, it knows that the objects are a projection and that the projection depends on it, so it knows that it is only ever experiencing itself, with or without the presence of objects.

Finally, Gaudapada says "this is the conclusion of Vedanta,” meaning it is not his conclusion, although he has fully assimilated Vedanta’s conclusion.


~text from quotes of Chinmayananda, Nikhilananda, Paramarthananda, Swartz (see The Famous MK2.12: Some Translations & Commentaries for each quote's context)





The Famous MK2.12: Some Translations & Commentaries

"This stanza is very famous in our literature and is, therefore, often quoted by authors, orators and philosophers."

kalpayaty-ātmanātmānam-ātmā devaḥ sva-māyayā, sa eva budhyate bhedān-iti vedānta-niścayaḥ. (12)

कल्पयति – imagines, projects; आत्मना – by itself; आत्मानम् – Self in itself; देवः आत्मा – the self-effulgent Self; स्वमायया – through its own delusion (māyā); सः – that (Self); एव – also; बुध्यते – experiences; भेदान् – the objects; इति – thus; वेदान्त-निश्चयः – definite conclusion of Vedānta

12. This is the definite conclusion of the philosophy of Vedānta that the Ᾱtman, the self-luminous, through the power of its own delusion (māyā) imagines in Itself by Itself all the objects, and Its individual experiences both in the world outside and within. It alone is the knower of the objects so created.

Here, In this stanza, for the first time, Gauḍapāda has come down to provide us with at least an explanation for the pluralistic world that we cognise in our waking state. Generally the theory of Māṇḍūkya-upaniṣad or the thesis developed in the Kārikā is that the seemingly created world is a mere delusion, unreal and illusory in all the three periods of time. But at rare moments, even Gauḍapāda has condescended to descend to our level of perception and recognising therein a pluralistic world, has explained to us how it must have risen up from our own delusions.

Translations & commentary: Chinmayananda


12. The self-effulgent Self imagines Itself through Itself by the power of Its own Māyā. The Self Itself cognises the objects. Such is the definite conclusion of Vedānta.

Svamayaya, through Its own Maya; devaḥ ātmā, the self-effulgent Self, Itself; kalpayati, imagines; Its own ātmānam, self; in the Self; as possessed of different forms to be spoken of later, just as snakes etc. are imagined on rope etc. And in the very same way It Itself budhyate, cognises; those bhedan, objects; iti, such; is vedantaniścayaḥ, the definite conclusion of Vedānta. There is nothing else (but the Self) as the support of cognition and memory; nor are cognition and memory without support as is held by the Nihilists. This is the idea.

~Gaudapada with Shankara’s commentary (tr-Gambhirananda)


The self-luminous Atman, by Its own maya, conjures up the imagination of the different objects seen to exist outside in the relative world, and also their cognizer, the individual self. It is like the imagining of a snake in a rope. It Is the Self that imagines both the snake and its perceiver. This Self is the substratum of both knowledge and memory. Therefore the conclusion of Vedanta is quite unlike the view of certain Buddhist nihilists. Again, Vedanta is not solipsism. The individual ego does not create the universe. Both come into existence together. The one cannot be conceived of without the other. Both the ego and the non-ego appear out of the mind of Isvara when the Knowledge of Reality is veiled by ignorance. The jiva, Isvara, and the world, all conjured up by maya, last as long as maya lasts.

~Nikhilananda


The answer is whoever is projecting the dream world is the same one that projects the waking world also. Therefore, ātmā alone projects out of itself the waking world with the help of ātmā itself. Other than māyā-śakti, ātmā does not need anything else for this projection. The dreamer does not need anything else external to himself other than nidrā-śakti for projecting the dream world. In the same way, ātmā does not require anything other than māyā-śakti to project this world. Where does māyā come from? Gauḍapāda says that it is already there in ātmā similar to the nidrā-śakti.

~Paramarthananda


The projection does not amount to duality, because it has no effect on the Self, just as a movie has no impact on the screen. The Self is subtler than Maya, “subtler than the subtlest,” the scripture says. Finally, he [Gaudapada] says “…this is the conclusion of Vedanta,” meaning it is not his conclusion, although he has fully assimilated Vedanta’s conclusion. Because the Self is not an object of experience and words only refer to objects, we are forced to use words with reference to the Self, which need to be contextualized to be understandable. So we say that the Self is an experienceless experiencer, or a non-experiencing witness. The simple logic is: (1) there is only the Self, (2) experience exists, (3) so the only experiencer is the Self. When Maya is operating, it seems as if the Self is modified, but it is unaffected by what it experiences, just as a video camera is unaffected by events it records.

~Swartz



MK2.12 Medley

Generally the theory of Māṇḍūkya-upaniṣad or the thesis developed in the Kārikā is that the seemingly created world is a mere delusion, unreal and illusory in all the three periods of time. ~C

Gauḍapāda has condescended to descend to our level of perception and recognising therein a pluralistic world, has explained to us how it must have risen up from our own delusions. ~C

The answer is whoever is projecting the dream world is the same one that projects the waking world also. The dreamer does not need anything else external to himself other than nidrā-śakti for projecting the dream world. ~P

The dreamer starts his career the moment he forgets himself. This capacity to forget himself and to project outward into a world of experienced objects is not a faculty that has reached him from anywhere else but it is an inherent capacity. ~C

Therefore, ātmā alone projects out of itself the waking world with the help of ātmā itself. Other than māyā-śakti, ātmā does not need anything else for this projection. Where does māyā come from? Gauḍapāda says that it is already there in ātmā similar to the nidrā-śakti. ~P

It is like the imagining of a snake in a rope. It is the Self that imagines both the snake and its perceiver. This Self is the substratum of both knowledge and memory. Therefore the conclusion of Vedanta is quite unlike the view of certain nihilists. ~N

Vedanta is not solipsism. The individual ego does not create the universe. Both come into existence together. The jiva, Isvara, and the world, all conjured up by maya, last as long as maya lasts. ~N

The projection does not amount to duality, because it has no effect on the Self, just as a movie has no impact on the screen. So we say that the Self is an experienceless experiencer, or a non-experiencing witness. ~S

When the Self-realized Self experiences objects, it knows that the objects are a projection and that the projection depends on it, so it knows that it is only ever experiencing itself, with or without the presence of objects. ~S

Finally, Gaudapada says "this is the conclusion of Vedanta,” meaning it is not his conclusion, although he has fully assimilated Vedanta’s conclusion. ~S








Tuesday, August 12, 2025

Sacred Crossing

1. the current dream

The waking state is just the current dream. Between each dream is a deep sleep.

Every dream thinks it's the current dream within parameters of its dreaming.

All dreams appear in turiya. Before realization, maya. After realization, maya. Chop wood, carry water.

2. follow the consciousness

A dream is an appearance in the mind. The mind is an appearance in consciousness. 

Consciousness is beyond the mind. Thinking otherwise is the definition of infinite regression.

Reflected consciousness consists of space, time, and consciousness. Follow the consciousness.

3. a most sacred math

Consciousness is the middle name of satcitananda. Existence, consciousness, and bliss are nondual.

Ignorance is the key to samsara. All keys are double-edged swords, my brothers and sisters.

I Minus Avidya Is That Minus Maya. This is a most sacred math. Use with caution.






Talks on Mandukya K2.1-6: Dreaming Up a Waking State

In the first chapter of his Karika, Gaudapada reduces the Mandukya’s three states of reflected consciousness into two: sleeping and dreaming. All three states are asleep, and waking is dreaming too. In the beginning of his next Prakarana on unreality, he quickly explains the logic of such a conflation.

First, and most obvious, he lists the reasons why dreams aren’t real, for the sake of pure argument. From the point of view of our waking state in this space-time continuum, there’s not enough of either in the body-mind for elephants and trips around the world. Also sruti says so.

Next, Gaudapada blows our collective minds. Because things are experienced in the waking state as things are experienced in a dream state, the act of experience is not a confirmation of some waking objective reality, as most assume, but proof that the waking state is just another state of dreaming.

Just as the dream world is in and of the mind, the waking world is in and of consciousness. Impermanence too. Just as the individual in the dream is dependent on the body-mind for its existence, the individual mind is dependent on consciousness for its reality. Consciousness is independent existence.





Friday, August 8, 2025

Talks on Mandukya K1.24-29

The four quarters of Aum are not to be known as vehicles but the four tenors themselves.

As if the sound of A is the actual waking state; U, the actual dreaming state; M, the actual deep sleep state.

And most notably, the real silence following and swallowing Aum is the witness consciousness, Turiya.

Aum is beginningless and that silence, timeless. Aum is an infinity of sounds appearing in the soundless.

Aum is God. That silence is Parabrahman. The one who knows Aum this way is the real sage.




The Perfect Name: Aum is the Lower and Higher Brahman: Translation and Commentaries on K1.26

Praṇavo - Oṁkāra

hyaparaṁ - indeed

Brahma – lower Brahman

praṇavaś-ca - and Oṁkāra

paraḥ - the higher (Brahman)

smṛtaḥ - is known;

apūrvo - without any cause preceding It

’nantaro - without inside

’bāhyo - without outside

’naparaḥ - without effect

praṇavo – Oṁkāra

’vyayah - without decay

26. Aum is verily the lower Brahman and it is also declared to be supreme Brahman. Praṇava is without any cause preceding it, without subsequent manifestation, without anything inside and outside, unrelated to any effect and changeless.

~Gaudapada (tr-Chinmayananda)


Commentary

Besides Gauḍapāda, Vasiṣṭha and others, the orthodox or the old school of advaitins in Vedānta, there is a modern school which allows for the perceived world a relative Reality. They call the multiple phenomenal world as the lower Brahman, which is the supreme Reality seemingly manifested through properties, actions, qualites and so on. The lower Brahman provides the idol for the worship of the upāsakas in Vedānta; the lower Brahman became saguṇa Brahman in later language of Vedānta. The old school of Vedānta mainly started and led by Gauḍapāda and Vasiṣṭha, does not accept the lower Brahman and insists on saying that the manifestation has never taken place.

On the contrary, the modern school of Vedānta founded by Śaṅkara and his followers, does permit a relative Reality for the manifested world. This is not because Śaṅkara believed that the pluralistic world is, in any sense real. In practice these two schools are not propounding mutually competing theories, but, in fact, they play a complementary role to each other. Śaṅkara’s attempt is to guide the sādhaka in and through the manifested realities to the unmanifest and the eternal Truth.

~Chinmayananda


Lower Brahman—That is, the Brahman which is looked upon as the cause of the universe. The dull and mediocre intellect should meditate upon Aum as described in the first line of Karika. The second line describes the soundless aspect of Aum or the Turiya Atman which can be understood only by one possessing the keenest intellect.

~Nikhilananda


From the 25th kārikā, he replaced the word Oṅkāra by the word praṇava. This word is not used in the Upaniṣad. Praṇava is a synonym for Oṅkāra that is used in the other Upaniṣads. The meaning of praṇava is perfect name, ideal name, or suitable name. For Brahman or God the ideal name is Oṅkāra. That is why Oṅkāra is called praṇava. God is one and OM is one syllable.

The Oṅkāra represents saguṇa Brahman. The silent part represents the nirguṇa Brahman. Nirguṇa Brahman is without a cause and an effect, without any second thing internally or externally, and without degeneration or declension. Oṅkāra can be used for saguṇa or nirguṇa dhyānam.

~Paramarthananda





Tuesday, August 5, 2025

Consciousness in Triplet

There are three states of everyday consciousness. There are many states of altered consciousness but they're not everyday. Such states of altered consciousness are more like holy days.

Beneath these three states is the ground. This ground is called the fourth from the point of view of the everyday. From the point of view of the Holy Mandukya, that ground is I.

If God is reflected consciouness, Maya is its mirror. Pure consciousness is not a mirror. Witness consciousness is like a movie screen. A mirror is appearing on that silver screen. How marvelous!






Talks on Mandukya 12

The Mandukya Upanishad consists of two parts: an inquiry into Atman (culminating in the magnificent 7th mantra) and an inquiry into Aum, into which the two are merging in its glorious 12th and last mantra.

And this 12th mantra is ending such a revelation with the Sanskrit, atmanatmanam: the Self merging into the Self. Like the water of the waves merging into the water of the sea, there is nothing but the Self.

It’s like the tenors and the mediums of Aum falling into the silence of Turiya. If deep sleep is the relative silence of the absence of duality, Turiya is the causeless silence of the presence of nonduality.










Mandukya 12 Word-by-word, Translations, & Commentaries


Chinmayananda's romanization word-by-word:

amātraś-caturtho-‘vyavahāryaḥ prapañcopaśamaḥ śivo-‘dvaita evam-oṅkāra ātmaiva saṁviśaty-ātmanātmānaṁ ya evaṁ veda.


Amātraś: the partless;

Caturtho: fourth (turīya);

Vyavahāryaḥ: beyond empirical transactions;

Prapañcopaśamaḥ: free from universe;

Śivo-‘dvaita: auspicious non-dual;

Evam-oṅkāra: thus Oṅkāra;

Ātmaiva: Self alone;

Saṁviśaty: enters, merges;

Ātmanātmānaṁ: through (his own) self into (his own supreme) Self;

Ya evaṁ veda: that thus who knows.



Translations:


That which has no parts, the soundless, the cessation of all phenomena, all blissful and non-dual Aum, is the fourth, and verily it is the same as the Ᾱtman. He, who knows this, merges his self in the supreme Self, the individual in the total. 

~Chinmayananda


The Fourth (Turiya) is without parts and without relationship; It is the cessation of phenomena; It is all good and non-dual. This Aum is verily Atman. He who knows this merges his self in Atman—yea, he who knows this.

~Nikhilananda


Turīya is the Silence, which is beyond transactions, free from the world, auspicious, and non-dual. Thus Oṅkāra is the very ātmā. One who knows thus enters the ātmā by himself.

~Paramarthananda


The Self is the Silence beyond transactions, free from the world, auspicious and non-dual. Thus Omkara is the very Self. One who knows this enters the Self by the Self.

~Swartz


That which has no part the partless Om; becomes but the Fourth, Turiya, merely the absolute Self; which is beyond empirical relations, because of the disappearance of names and nameables, that are but forms of speech and mind; the culmination of phenomenal existence; the auspicious; and non-dual. thus; Om, as possessed of the three letters and as applied by it man with the above knowledge, verily identical with the Self possessed of three quarters. he who knows thus; enters; into his own Self; through his own self. The knower of Brahman, who has realized the highest Truth, has entered into the Self by burning away the third state of latency; and hence he is not born again, since Turiya has no latency (of creation).

~Shankara (tr-Gambhirananda)



Commentaries:

When we talk about the equation of silence and Turīyaṃ, the word silence has a special connotation. It is not the conventional silence. Silence here has a special meaning. The conventional silence, absence of sound, should not be taken as Turīyaṃ.

This should not be equated to Turīyaṃ for two reasons. The first reason is that the conventional silence is taken to mean a mere absence of sound or noise and thus it is a negative entity. Absence is not a positive entity. If this negative description is applied to Turīyaṃ, one will end up with the Buddhist śūnyavāda teaching that the ultimate truth is emptiness.

The second reason is that the conventional silence is experienced only when the sound has disappeared. In the arrival of sound, conventional silence goes away and vice-versa. Conventional silence is a relative entity subject to arrival and departure. Comparison with conventional silence will make Turīyaṃ a relative entity.

Thus amātrā, Silence should not be taken as the relative silence. When you experience silence externally, it is the absence of sound and when thoughts and disturbances are absent in the mind, you experience internal silence, blankness. When you experience internal silence and there is internal blankness, is there only blankness?

Other than that blankness, there is something else, because of which you are aware of the blankness. If the silence is experienced and known by me, it means that there is a knowing consciousness principle that pervades the silence.

~Paramarthananda


In this way the mind “merges into” witness consciousness. If reality is non-dual, the “merger” is like the merger of water into water, not the merger of salt into water, meaning liberation is the removal of ignorance of one’s identity, not the gaining of a new identity or the dissolution of an existent identity. A jiva cannot “dissolve” into consciousness, because it is not real in the first place and there is no experiential access to consciousness, insofar as it is non-dual. It cannot exist as something else, because the existence it enjoys is existence itself. 

~Swartz


Just as in the previous mantras we have been given promises of the benefits which the meditator would gain through such meditations on Aum, here also the Guru informs the disciple that on meditating regularly upon the silent aspect of Aum, the individual self, meaning the egoistic idea of separativeness in us, gets merged into the divine experience of the all-soul, the eternal and the immortal.

~Chinmayananda


Those who know Brahman, those who realise the Highest Reality merge into Self, because in their case the notion of the cause which corresponds to the third quarter (of Atman) is destroyed (burnt). They are not born again, because Turlya is not a cause. For, the illusory snake which has merged in the rope on the discrimination of the snake from the rope, does not reappear as before, to those who know the distinction between them, by any effort of the mind (due to the previous impressions). 

~Shankara (tr-Nikhilananda)


It may be contended that like a man coming back to the realm of duality having experienced deep sleep, the knower of Self who has identified himself with Turiva may also come back to the illusory universe, for Prajna and Turiya are identical having a common feature of the perception of non-duality. This contention is without ground, because Turiya is not a cause.. Hence it cannot give rise to the world of illusory experience. Unlike Prajna it is beyond all relations of cause and effect. Therefore one who has identified himself with Turiya can never see the illusion of the manifold.

~Nikhilananda commenting on above